Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 106

02/21/2008 03:30 PM House HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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*+ HB 274 UNIV. REPORT: TEACHER TRAINING/RETENTION TELECONFERENCED
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+ SCR 17 BRAIN INJURY AWARENESS MONTH: MARCH 2008 TELECONFERENCED
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*+ HB 50 CHILD PLACEMENT COMPACT TELECONFERENCED
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HB  50-CHILD PLACEMENT COMPACT                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:43:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 50,  "An Act relating  to the  Interstate Compact                                                               
for  the  Placement  of   Children;  establishing  an  interstate                                                               
commission for  the placement of  children; amending Rules  4 and                                                               
24,  Alaska  Rules  of  Civil Procedure;  and  providing  for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:43:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROSES  moved  to   adopt  CSHB  50,  Version  25-                                                               
LS0265\E,  Mischel, 2/19/08,  as  a working  draft.   Hearing  no                                                               
objection, Version E was before the committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:43:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   JOHN   COGHILL,    Alaska   State   Legislature,                                                               
informed the committee that he  introduced the bill after hearing                                                               
a  Council  of  State   Governments  presentation  regarding  the                                                               
Interstate  Compact   for  the  Placement  of   Children  (ICPC).                                                               
Representative  Coghill noted  that the  present day  compact has                                                               
failings;  however,  in reading  the  new  compact last  year  he                                                               
concluded that it  held overreaching language that  put the state                                                               
in   the  position   of   surrendering   too  much   sovereignty.                                                               
Representative Coghill  worked with other states  and the compact                                                               
commissioners to solve  some of the problems,  although the state                                                               
only  has the  choice to  sign  on or  not, and  can not  request                                                               
changes to  the language.  He  noted that some of  the reasons to                                                               
have an interstate  compact are to get children out  of Alaska to                                                               
relatives out-of-state, and to arrange for a home visit out-of-                                                                 
state  for an  Alaskan parent.   Representative  Coghill observed                                                               
that the  old compact was  effective in 1960, and  he recommended                                                               
that the committee review and approve HB 50, Version E.  Thirty-                                                                
five states have  to pass the compact prior to  its enactment and                                                               
he stressed that Alaska should move  forward due, in part, to its                                                               
transient society  and large numbers  of military families.   The                                                               
new compact  will hold Alaska  and the other  members accountable                                                               
and sets  effective rules for  matters of adoption  and child-in-                                                               
need-of-aid.   He stressed that  administration laws and  many of                                                               
the  rules  of  adoption and  child-in-need-of-aid  have  changed                                                               
significantly over  time.  Representative  Coghill said  that the                                                               
American Public  Human Services  Association was  instrumental in                                                               
the  development of  Version E,  and  he urged  the committee  to                                                               
begin the state's process of entering into the compact.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:49:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA  recalled looking  at changes to  a compact                                                               
eight years ago.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  responded that there was  an amendment to                                                               
this  section  in  2003  or   2004;  however,  there  was  not  a                                                               
replacement compact.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:50:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON surmised that this is essentially a new compact.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL said yes.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:50:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON asked  whether  the  sponsor statement  of                                                               
September 14, 2007, addresses Version E.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  answered that the sponsor  statement does                                                               
apply to Version E.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:51:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  pointed out  the memorandum in  which the                                                               
state  attorney  general  advised Commissioner  Karleen  Jackson,                                                               
Department of  Health and  Social Services  (DHSS), not  to adopt                                                               
the compact.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:51:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RYNNIEVA  MOSS,  Staff  to Representative  John  Coghill,  Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature, informed  the committee  that the  memorandum                                                               
Representative Gardner  referred to concerned the  old version of                                                               
the compact.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:52:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GARDNER  asked   whether   the  state   attorney                                                               
general's office  has recommended that Commissioner  Jackson sign                                                               
the current form of the proposed new compact.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MOSS said  yes.    There is  an  assistant attorney  general                                                               
available to testify, if needed.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:52:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON  asked whether  the  memorandum  from Jean  Mischel                                                               
dated September 11, 2007, applied to Version E.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOSS stated that the memorandum applied to [Version A].                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:53:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARCIA PICKERING,  Deputy Compact Administrator;  Social Services                                                               
Program  Coordinator,   Office  of  Children's   Services  (OCS),                                                               
Department  of Health  and Social  Services  (DHSS), advised  the                                                               
committee  of her  experience as  an Interstate  Compact for  the                                                               
Placement   of   Children   administrator  and   read   [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The current compact was  written in 1959/60 and enacted                                                                    
     by the  first state  in 1960.   Alaska joined  in 1976.                                                                    
     The  compact  was  written  before the  US  created  an                                                                    
     interstate  highway  system,   before  the  concept  of                                                                    
     Administrative Law, and before the home use of computer                                                                    
     technology.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The   proposed  legislation   before   you  offers   an                                                                    
     opportunity for states to renew their commitment to the                                                                    
     safe and  timely interstate  placements of  children in                                                                    
     foster  care and  more expedient  interstate placements                                                                    
     for private adoptions.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The new compact is intended to bring:                                                                                      
          Uniformity to the process                                                                                             
          Accountability                                                                                                        
          Continued Reciprocity                                                                                                 
          and insure Safe and Timely placements                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
    And it has been endorsed by the Executive Committees of                                                                     
     the                                                                                                                        
          Nat. Council of State Human Services                                                                                  
          Nat.   Association   of   Public   Child   Welfare                                                                    
     Administrators                                                                                                             
          Nat. Association of Administers of the ICPC                                                                           
          American Academy of Adoption Attorneys                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     HIGHLIGHTED CHANGES                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     PROVIDES FOR:                                                                                                              
          Administrative Rule making and enforcement                                                                            
          Supervision services and Accountability                                                                               
       Option of Purchasing Services / HS and Supervision                                                                       
          Uniform Data Collection and Info Sharing                                                                              
          Guidelines involving Tribal Governments                                                                               
          Now 2 Type of Placement Evaluations, uniformity                                                                       
               Home Study                                                                                                       
               Assessment                                                                                                       
       Provides for Provisional Approvals, (assessments)                                                                        
          Specifies Choice of Law regarding interstate                                                                          
     issues                                                                                                                     
         Rule Making /applicability of ICPC to US armed                                                                         
     Service Members                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     DELETED:                                                                                                                   
        Applicability to private parent placements, with                                                                        
     relatives and non-                                                                                                         
          relatives, when the placement will not result in                                                                      
     an adoption.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
        Applicability to private parent placements to a                                                                         
     residential program.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          Applicability to Foreign Adoptions                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:55:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON asked for an explanation of "administrative rules."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:55:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PICKERING explained  that the  administrative rules  will be                                                               
created and published, subject to  public comment, and that there                                                               
will be input  from stakeholders.  The rules are  also subject to                                                               
change by a  majority of state legislatures.   Presently, without                                                               
administrative law,  the state's  representatives would  meet and                                                               
make administrative decisions without the  force of law; this led                                                               
to different  interpretations and  disputes between states.   Ms.                                                               
Pickering continued to explain that  the new compact calls for an                                                               
interstate commission to  enforce uniformity, accountability, and                                                               
continued  reciprocity,  and  will  ensure the  safe  and  timely                                                               
placement of children.   Presently, there are many  delays due to                                                               
the differences  between policies from  state to state.   The new                                                               
compact has  been endorsed by  the executive committees of:   the                                                               
American   Public  Human   Services  Association,   the  National                                                               
Association   of  Public   Child   Welfare  Administrators,   the                                                               
administrators  of the  Interstate Compact  for the  Placement of                                                               
Children, and the American Academy of Adoption Attorneys (AAAA).                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:58:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PICKERING highlighted  the changes  in the  new compact  and                                                               
said that  it now provides  for:  administrative rule  making and                                                               
enforcement;  supervision   services,  including   frequency  and                                                               
content;  the option  to purchase  home  study services;  uniform                                                               
data  collection and  information  sharing; guidelines  involving                                                               
tribal  government; guidelines  on  assessments; and  provisional                                                               
approvals.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:00:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA shared her  experience that children who go                                                               
out-of-state without a proper home study are at risk.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:01:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PICKERING   agreed  that  case   workers  need   to  request                                                               
sufficient information  for proper placement; a  placement should                                                               
not  be made  with an  insufficient home  study.   During out-of-                                                               
state  placement  there is  also  the  risk  of placing  a  child                                                               
without knowing  about the  provision of  medical care  and other                                                               
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:02:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA asked whether  the new compact will provide                                                               
for continued contact  between a child placed  out-of-state and a                                                               
former foster parent.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PICKERING  responded  that  the  compact  does  not  address                                                               
continuing  relationships  for  the  child.   She  expressed  her                                                               
belief that  this is an  issue for  the parties involved  and the                                                               
case worker.   Ms.  Pickering continued to  explain that  the new                                                               
compact specifies the choice of  law regarding interstate issues.                                                               
In  answer to  a question,  she  further explained  that, with  a                                                               
private adoption,  the receiving state's adoption  laws will take                                                               
precedence.     In   addition,  the   new  compact   deletes  its                                                               
applicability  to private  parent placements  with relatives  and                                                               
non relatives, when the placement does not result in adoption.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:05:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  referred   to  Indian  Custodianship,  a                                                               
Native  family and  federal  law  that allows  a  person to  give                                                               
temporary,  custodian, guardianship  for a  child at  will.   She                                                               
asked whether this law applies across state borders.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. PICKERING opined  that this issue would have  to be addressed                                                               
on  an  individual   basis.    Furthermore,  she   said  she  was                                                               
unfamiliar with this law and its effect in other states.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:06:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER re-stated that this  is a federal law, and                                                               
that it is revocable at will.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:07:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PICKERING continued to say  that the new compact also deletes                                                               
private parent placement to residential  programs and removes the                                                               
requirement  that the  Division  of Juvenile  Justice, Office  of                                                               
Children's Services, needs  to give approval to place  a child in                                                               
a  residential  program.   The  final  changes are  that  foreign                                                               
adoptions are no  longer required to comply with  the compact and                                                               
that there will be a requirement  for oversight of the compact by                                                               
a state advisory committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:08:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA recalled  that  [the Bring  the Kids  Home                                                               
Program] is a party to  the placement of children in out-of-state                                                               
private residential treatment centers.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. PICKERING agreed  that the Bring the Kids Home  Project is an                                                               
effort  to  analyze  the  community   treatment  of  kids  as  an                                                               
alternative to sending them out-of-state.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:09:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA asked whether there is a contradiction                                                                    
between the compact and the Bring the Kids Home Project.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON offered that, before kids are sent out-of-state,                                                                   
there must be an evaluation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:10:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA asked whether Ms. Pickering was doing                                                                     
evaluations.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. PICKERING said no.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER requested a copy of Ms. Pickering's                                                                      
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Although not formally stated, HB 50 was heard and held.]                                                                       

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